God's Apples
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Posted - 2014.11.02 03:54:50 -
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Medium ACs are garbage because mid-range combat doesn't exist anymore. Back when people fought in unlinked t2 point range they were a fine weapon system with some of the strongest hulls in the game. However, now we are in the days of skirmish links where engagement ranges for kiting ships are 30 - 40km. At this distance optimal bonused pulses, sentries, rails, and beams excel. If you want to brawl you just use blasters. Kiting with autocannons also means using barrage which pigeon holes your damage just like lasers do while you are doing less than 50% dps at kiting range vs a laser ship's 100%.
The only strong AC ships that aren't frigs/dessies are the sleip and the mach and that is only because they have absurdly power stats and hull bonuses.
Perhaps a way to fix medium ACs is give buff to range to undo TE nerf and make barrage do omni damage... |
God's Apples
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Posted - 2014.12.22 23:58:39 -
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Baltec, you need to get your trash tier posting out of this thread.
I'm a better pilot than you ever will be, yet I rarely, if ever, fly minmatar DPS ships. So don't use the "you just suck too much to use minnie ships" argument. You say AC ships are never used in fleet doctrines. I do dozens more small gang pvp than you, and I never see minnie ships used for damage. So where are they used? Please enlighten me.
You say they have selectable damage. If you kite with ACs you will use barrage. Barrage is locked to explosive with some kinetic. That's not better than being locked to EM with some thermal that lasers have. In addition to that, explosive is by far worse than EM because you most likely don't do enough damage at range to break the passive recharge of most t1 or t2 gallente/caldari/minnie shield tanked ships since you are hitting some of, if not their highest, resists in falloff. Against armor ships you fair somewhat better, but still have anemic damage, and are doing 0 damage vs t2 amarr. ACs are awful at kiting.
But you can ram ships and have selectable damage, right? That might work against a solo player, but the tactic has no scalability. The only good medium AC ship is the sleipnir and that is because it has ridiculous hull bonuses. The vagabond hull is arguably "good," but imagine if it was a laser boat with an optimal bonus or rail boat with a tracking bonus; it would be absurdly OP to the point of being one of the best small scale ships in the game. Instead, it's greatly overshadowed by the other high end cruisers.
"Hydra Reloaded are just jealous / butthurt on me / us because we can get tons of PVP action in empire while they aren't good enough to get that." - NightmareX
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God's Apples
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Posted - 2014.12.27 19:31:11 -
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Baltec, I'm still waiting for your ingenious, well thought out reply to my point 2 pages back.
"Hydra Reloaded are just jealous / butthurt on me / us because we can get tons of PVP action in empire while they aren't good enough to get that." - NightmareX
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